Two examples of horizontal hostility

1) A feminist deciding that the main focus of her activism will be attacking women who she thinks are doing feminism wrong.

2) A Jew deciding that because anti-Semitism wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for Israel, he or she will end anti-Semitism by attacking other Jews.

There’s a reason some targets are so easy.

These are the kinds of posts I write when lots of little things add up.

16 Responses

  1. A Jew deciding that because anti-Semitism wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for Israel, he or she will end anti-Semitism by attacking other Jews.

    A remarkable idea, considering that Zionism was* premised on the idea that the existence of Israel would end antisemitism…

    * Not that Zionism no longer exists, but I don’t think it’s based on this idea anymore.

  2. “A remarkable idea, considering that Zionism was* premised on the idea that the existence of Israel would end antisemitism…”

    Partially premised, I’d amend. Certainly, a premise which has gone badly awry, though (I wonder if a more explicitly Black Power inspired “Zionism premised on the idea that antisemitism is inevitable, and Israel is the only way to make it into a fair fight” has gained traction in its place).

  3. Oh, and on the post proper (specifically #2) — Naomi “protesting anti-Semitism disturbs me more than actual anti-Semitism” Klein, come on down!

  4. David, the link in your comment isn’t working for me, so maybe what you’re saying will make sense when I can see what you’re linking to, but your comment strikes me as pretty unfair.

  5. Here. She’s making a sustained attack on the Jewish students who protested anti-Semitism at Durban II. She labels their activities “the most disturbing feeling” evinced at the conference (even more so than the anti-Semitism they were protesting, presumably, though later she just equates the two as “both … truly awful”), because some wore clown costumes, and accuses them of “sabotaging” Black-Jewish relations and anti-racism discourse more broadly. She also blames the Jewish groups who tried to boycott the conference for the attention given to Ahmadinejad’s speech — as if things were better at Durban I where Jews were silenced almost completely. (I’m just going to skate on by Naomi Klein whining about a boycott in protest of racist activity).

    It was one of the most sickening displays of victim-blaming I’ve seen in quite some time. I don’t claim to read Klein’s mind, though I don’t doubt that she (like every other human being on the planet, including racists, bigots, and haters of all stripes) conceives of herself as a fair-minded person interested in justice for all. But as far as I’m concerned, in terms of words and actions, she is an ally of hatred and racism. She aids it, abets it, apologizes for it, and demands the silence of those who would stand up against it.

  6. Two links which both argue that ignoring human rights atrocities around the world to obsessively focus on Israel is better than the opposite (even were it true that the agenda of the Jewish students was to put Israel “beyond criticism”, which is a vile slander and you know it likely don’t know it, because you’re aggressively ignorant on the subject)? How compelling. And Jenny continues her useful contribution batting average of .000.

    Of course, now we have a valid comparison to see which infuriates me more: Folks who admit there was anti-Semitism at Durban II and don’t care (Klein), or folks who just ignore it so they can paint the folks protesting it (while promoting human rights elsewhere!) as having naught but ulterior motives (Jenny and her links). Both are such sterling examples of reactionary, anti-humanist politics.

    It’s a photo finish!

  7. David, your tone is way out of line. Cool it.

  8. Yes David, are you even aware the links I posted were blogs authored by Jewish people?

  9. Jenny, I’m sure he is. Both of you – this isn’t productive.

  10. Julie — you’re right, I’m sorry. I banned Jenny from my site because imo she’s anti-Semitic in attitude and is not interested in wrestling with it, but I have no right to be abusive in your own comment section. I was importing frustration from events on my site onto yours, and that’s not something your site has an obligation to host.

    In the future, though, I simply won’t be responding to Jenny’s comments when I come across them in your or any other thread, as she’s someone I’ve found it wholly unproductive to engage with in toto. Jenny, make a note of it.

  11. Thanks, David.

  12. It’s true, I snapped at him one day and he understandably responded likewise. I’ll see myself out.

  13. Thanks, Jenny.

  14. Daisy; Zionism never had* premised on the idea that the existence of Israel would end antisemitism… but will enable Jews to meet with it and win.

    It is quite ridiculous that Zionism is also the main protector of the anti semitic Jews that should thanks Israel for being appreaciated by anti semitic gentiles.

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